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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Circassia[edit]
A tag has been placed on Category:Circassia indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. ✗plicit 13:35, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Category:Circassia has been nominated for merging[edit]
Category:Circassia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Gjs238 (talk) 15:25, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think Circassia is a distinct topic. It was a country or region for hundreds of years. For other countries/regions we have distinct categories named after the place, such as the Kingdom of Hawaii or the Ottoman Empire. We do not try to conflate categories of the place with those for the ethnic group that once inhabited the place. This is particularly true for Cicassia v Circassians. Since the Circassins left the place under force from the Russian government, a lot of our material on Circassians is either about ethnic Circassian people elsewhere, or Circassian nationalism after the loss of the physical place. These are district topics for articles that cover the place that was Circassia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:41, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Circassia and Circassians are 2 seperate articles. I believe this means the burden is on others to show why we would not have 2 seperate categories. We in general have one category that covers the political entity, and another category for people. In the case of Circassians the topic category is covering some things related to the Circassian diaspora. If we do not need all these categories, I think it is the Circassians, not the Cicassia category that we should not keep.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:43, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think Circassia is a distinct topic. It was a country or region for hundreds of years. For other countries/regions we have distinct categories named after the place, such as the Kingdom of Hawaii or the Ottoman Empire. We do not try to conflate categories of the place with those for the ethnic group that once inhabited the place. This is particularly true for Cicassia v Circassians. Since the Circassins left the place under force from the Russian government, a lot of our material on Circassians is either about ethnic Circassian people elsewhere, or Circassian nationalism after the loss of the physical place. These are district topics for articles that cover the place that was Circassia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:41, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
John R. Cocke[edit]
The article John R. Cocke says that the subjects name is actually spelled John R. Cooke.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:39, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Huh. There is a separate, and longer, article about the same person under the title John R. Cooke which is indeed the correct spelling. I slapped merge templates on them. I don't know if there's anything on the John R. Cocke article that isn't already in the correct article. If you want to look into it that'd be fine. Herostratus (talk) 22:09, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Categorizing by ethnicity[edit]
we categorize by ethnicity, not race. For this reason I think we should highly scrutinize placing anyone in a Native American Category. That is categorizing by race, not ethnicity. We need to doubly scrutinize in the pre-1850 time period. Pocahontas is not an undifferentiated Native America.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:27, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Scientific instrument makers from the Holy Roman Empire[edit]
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